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Sunday, October 4, 2015

Foolish Voters Fall For Phony Conservatives Fiorina & Rubio - Pt. 1

The Horse Sense Blog compares the nonsense in today's news with good ol' fashioned horse sense.

Here's the Nonsense:  We can tell just from a good interview or a good speech that candidates like Fiorina and Rubio are conservatives who have good plans for America.

Here's the Horse Sense:  Very few people do their own homework to know much about candidates before supporting them.  The lack of effort made to do research on your own is the reason so many people fell for Bill Clinton in 1992 and Barack Obama in 2008.

It's times like this when I wonder if it's worth even bothering to write because of the foolishness of American voters.  While we've seen some recent awakening of voters to the imminent destruction of America, it's very disconcerting when they don't pay enough attention to see the difference between candidates who can help America and those who will take us down the same old path of destruction.  And that's just what's happening right now.

As Jeb's campaign continues to falter, the establishment GOP is working hard to line up a few replacements in case they're needed.  They know that the candidates have to try to come across as conservative to get enough support to win the nomination.  

Initially they got people like Chris Christie, Lindsey Graham, and George Pataki to enter the race but no one is buying the idea that they are conservative.  They had Scott Walker and it was even shown by the NY Times that they accepted he had moved to the right to win conservative votes but they knew he'd move to the left if he was nominated.  Thankfully his campaign already failed.

As they see their fair haired boy Jeb failing they have found others willing to do their bidding such as Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio. And many voters are buying the sales pitch and giving rise to these two in the polls.

While I was initially impressed at how Carly handled herself on the campaign trail, as she started to get more attention I started looking more closely at what she really stands for.  My impression of her quickly turned to concern the more I learned.

An abundance of work is now being produced raising concerns over her positions on the issues and ties to the establishment GOP.  Far more than what I addressed in the past here.  In fact, so many that it would be too much to address them all in this post.   

Probably the best overall research I've seen into where Carly really stands comes from the PUMAbydesign001's Blog which has written 3 excellent pieces that you should click on and read to get their entire content.  You can read them here, here and here.  

Some of the information you'll find includes:


  • "So after watching the Presidential Debate 9/17/15 it seems we have another Barack Obama with makeup and gorgeous clothes snuggling down in our midst, probably because she thinks Americans are still sleeping at the wheel.  Could our Country endure another great orator who is glib of tongue who has brought a basket full of 'hope and change' to sell Americans."
  • In the last debate Trump said Yale Law's 'top man' (Sonnenfeld) criticized former HP CEO Carly Fiorina.  Sonnenfeld said this on CNBC's Squawk on the Street: "HP was in great shape when [Fiorina] got there and she left it in tatters....  She's never gotten a CEO job tenure since.  What does that tell you?  In 10 years, what has she learned?...  People learn a lot as they've had adversity... The comeback stories are very much the American dream but her comeback can't be from failure to the American presidency as the commander in chief of the free world when she hasn't proven herself."
  • On Sept. 10, 2015 "AZ’s chief Common Core pusher hosts exclusive private fundraiser for Carly Fiorina in Phoenix.  Craig Barrett, AZ’s chief Common Core pusher and Chairman of the Board at Achieve Inc. (architects of the Common Core standards), hosted a private fundraiser for Carly Fiorina in AZ on 9/10/15 according to the Maricopa County Republican Committee (MCRC) Briefs.  Craig Barrett, Arizona’s poorer version of Bill Gates, routinely supports candidates for Governor and Superintendent of Education who then go on to advocate for his position of supporting Common Core learning standards and the suctioning of our kids’ data to all of his buddies at the Chamber of Commerce.  Craig Barrett would not support anyone who is truly against Common Core in their actions…. The goal of globalists, which Carly Fiorina is an integral part of are moving rapidly to bring all human beings on earth under the control of a single global state.  This is known as the “New World Order” that Obama has mentioned frequently.  The movement has been initiated in the United States for many years and Common Core is a huge red flag."
  • "Fiorina was long and full of compassion for Hillary Clinton before she was against her. In a series of clips put together in a video by Buzzfeed, Fiorina praised Clinton during the 2008 presidential campaign while at the same time working pursuant to Forbes 2008 article employed as 'one of John McCain’s most ubiquitous campaign surrogates.' [One of Fiorina's comments about Hillary was:] 'I have such great admiration and empathy for Hillary Clinton…I have great admiration for her because I know what it takes in some small measure to do what she has done. She is obviously incredibly intelligent, focused, tough, determined, empathetic of all the tens of millions of people that she was trying to represent in her quest to become the first woman president of the United States…. And as a woman, I take great pride in the fact that Hillary Clinton ran for president. And I also watched with a lot of empathy as I saw how she was scrutinized, characterized, talked about as a woman…'”
  • "When asked earlier this year in an interview with Katie Couric 'Is manmade global warming a problem?'  Fiorina who has bought into the argument that climate change aka global warming exists was evasive in her response."  [In fact, Fiorina has expressed belief in man-caused climate change in the past, along with support for cap and trade legislation.] 
  • "As pointed out by D.C. McAllister earlier this week in The Federalist: 'Fiorina says she wants to throw punches at Clinton on the issues, but how can she when she has sometimes sounded just like Clinton?' As Daniel Horowitz writes at Conservative Review, 'During the 2013 Obamacare funding showdown, Carly ripped into Ted Cruz, echoing the Democrat talking points about the "Cruz shutdown." She also said she felt bad for John Boehner. If you look at her statement carefully, this runs a lot deeper than the issue of defunding Obamacare….'”
  • Fiorina was supported in her failed 2010 run for the Senate by such establishment Republicans as Senators Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, and Rep. Kevin McCarthy.

Along with all of this, we are seeing establishment money line up behind Ms. Fiorina as reported by Newsmax.  These people "shop" for candidates carefully and push for establishment candidates that will do their bidding.  
Any voters thinking Fiorina is a conservative are making a big mistake.  She and Rubio (which I'll write about next, in part 2 of this post) are leading their followers down a path that will only continue the disaster the establishment has supported for America.